The Sony W850C is a good TV with excellent contrast and motion control. Unfortunately, it has too much motion blur and input lag to be a great gaming TV. For movies and general use though, it is a good choice.
- Great blacks and native contrast ratio.
- Good motion controls.
- Limited viewing angle.
- More motion blur and input lag than average, which is not ideal for gaming.
The stand of our Sony KDL65W850C has a footprint of 24" by 10.5", which is relatively small for a 65" TV. It wobbles a little bit back and forth though.
2.68" (6.8 cm)
4867 : 1
The contrast ratio is 4867:1, which is great, and means the blacks are deep.
SDR Peak 2% Window
SDR Peak 50% Window
Our unit has a few visible vertical bands across the screen, as well as darker edges.
At a wide viewing angle, the colors are not the same as in front. The blacks are not as good, either. The picture quality is better when you sit directly in-axis.
Update 01/06/2017: We have changed the methodology of testing. Since this is an old TV which we don't have anymore, we extrapolated the results from 2016 TVs.
Native Std. Dev.
The black uniformity is great. There is a slight clouding spot in the top left quadrant, but it wasn't noticeable with normal content.
Upscaling of lower-resolution content like DVDs looks good.
Cable TV will also looks good when upscaled.
Native 1080p looks very good on this TV.
It reflects slightly more light than average, but it doesn't have the rainbow glare that most other TVs do.
The maximum brightness is a bit below average. Nothing to worry about with one or two windows, but it isn't the best choice for more than that.
The 3D picture quality is good, without noticeable crosstalk.
We changed our test for motion blur. The score is now only based on the response time and overshoot of the pixel transitions. We test 12 different transitions. Click the response time number to see all the data and graphs. We retested all our 2015 reviews with this new methodology. We also capture how the backlight handles different luminosity settings. We will update our motion blur article in a few days to explain how all of this works, and how it translates into practical application.
The Sony W850C has more motion blur than average. The trail length for dark to bright transitions is a lot longer than bright to dark. At least it has very good backlight control. See the Q&A section for details on how the 'Clearness' setting affects the clarity of movements via the backlight.
PWM Dimming Frequency
Judder-free 24p via 60p
Judder-free 24p via 60i
Set 'Motionflow' to 'True Cinema' to enable 24p playback without judder, even over 60p.
Motion Interpolation (30 fps)
Motion Interpolation (60 fps)
1080p With Interpolation
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + 8 bit HDR
The input lag under game mode is 36.2ms, which isn't bad, but not great. The input lag with motion interpolation is really low at 50.5ms, which is definitely playable. So it is a good choice if you want your 30 fps console game look like a 120 fps game.
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4
To get chroma 4:4:4, set the picture mode to 'Game' or 'Graphics'.
Digital Optical Audio Out
Analog Audio Out 3.5mm
5.1 Passthrough ARC Dolby Digital
5.1 Passthrough ARC DTS
5.1 Passthrough Optical Dolby Digital
5.1 Passthrough Optical DTS
HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwith
Variable Analog Audio Out
Note: Sound Quality test for TVs reviewed before 2017 was performed at 75dB, 85dB, and Max SPL. Starting 2017, the target SPL levels have been changed to 70dB, 80dB, and Max dB SPL.
Std. Dev. @ 70
3.53 dB SPL
Std. Dev. @ 80
3.48 dB SPL
Std. Dev. @ Max
5.45 dB SPL
This TV gets loud. Good frequency response at moderate levels, but at higher volumes the frequency response suffers and pumping may be present. Low-end cut off is not very good.
Total Harmonic Distortion
Very clean sound at lower volumes, but like other Sony TVs, there's a big jump in distortion level when the TV is pushed hard.
The included remote is basic, but you can install an app on your smartphone to control the TV.
Power Consumption (Max)
The Sony W850C LED TV is a good TV, but not a great one. Last year's W850B was a better gaming TV, with less motion blur and input lag. The contrast ratio and black uniformity is great, so it is a good choice for movies or TV shows.
Questions & Answers
18 ANSWERED QUESTIONS
Which 3D glasses should I purchase for my KDL75W850C
Like most Sony TVs, the W850C has a 'Clearness' slider that can be used to control how the motion looks, without increasing the input lag (you can use it for gaming under Game mode).
The following pictures show what it looks like for each value. We also measured the backlight pattern via our photodiode probe. You can see that increasing the 'Clearness' changes the duty cycle of the 120hz PWM flickering. Clearness 5 drops the backlight frequency to 60hz, but the pulse length is increased.
Is there an ETA for the Sony W850C
review? I'm really interested in the 75", since last year's model was so great for gaming. I'm especially curious to see if they've ironed out the radial banding issue yet.
We'll likely get to it within a month.
Great site and I love your reviews!
I took a gamble and got the W850C
recently. The black uniformity seems great (I've set the TV up for a dark room) but the grey uniformity seems to be bad. I can see columns of LEDs that are more luminous that the others. I wonder why it only affects grey and not blacks. The corners are darker than the rest of the screen, but I can live with that. The contrast is brilliant and so is the motion blur. I like to set the live color in medium mode more more vividness. The TV can get very bright - it's a good thing if you want to increase the clearness levels.
Android is brilliant, I just cast anything and everything on to the TV and works with both 2.4 and 5ghz channels. I can see new apps being added everyday! Overall, it's a great TV - could be laggier than the 70W850B, which I was considering before this purchase. Waiting for your review to see if the grey uniformity is generally bad or I just got unlucky.
The short answer is that the black and gray uniformity issues are largely the same, but because black is much darker, it's more difficult to notice deviations. All LED TVs have uniformity issues, and they're all pretty bad overall, but it's possible you got particularly unlucky. Feel free to send us a photo if you want our opinion on whether your TV is normal, or if you should get an exchange.
Thanks for sharing your first impressions of this TV. We should have our review up for you in a couple of weeks.
Also trying to decide whether it's worth getting the W850C
or if I should just stick with last year's W850B
. If you could get that new review, I'd really appreciate it!
The review is now up, and we recommend sticking with the W850B
. It has less blur, as well as lower input lag, so you wouldn't be trading up by getting the W850C
I have a 7 year old Sony kdl52v4100 and am perfectly happy with the picture. Never had a problem with it, but I just want a bigger tv. Don't know how this set compares with newer ones spec wise. Most of this is way over my head. Would the sony 65w850c be at least as good or better than what I have? Don't own a game system, just watch Uverse, dvd, bluray and apple tv.
We haven't reviewed the KDL52V4100, so we can't say for sure. But the new Sony 65W850C shouldn't be worse than your old TV. It should be at least just as good especially for your usage.
Should I stick with the Sony W950B
or get the W850C
as a gaming TV with some movie use?
Keep the W950B
. Its contrast and uniformity aren't as good, but the W850C
has higher input lag and more blur, neither of which are good for gaming.
Hi. Very informative website. Thank you! I'm coming from a Sony KF-60XBR800 (it's old, I know). Just bought a Sony KDL75W850C
. Vertical banding is an issue, and I knew that.
My question is: I applied all the custom settings that you guys have recommended. However, we like our TV picture to "pop." Is there a special calibration setting you can recommend? I think we are not alone. If you pay $2500+ you expect "pop." I do like your settings for movies/Blu-ray. Thank you.
Use the Vivid picture setting, or increase the color saturation. That will make the picture pop. Increasing the backlight would also help.
With the Sony W850C
and other Android TVs, how much RAM and how fast is the CPU compared to the Chromecast, since it's claimed to be a TV with a built-in Chromecast? Is it really just a chopped up Chromecast? Do all Android TVs follow the basic Quadcore 2GB RAM spec of the Chromecast? I think this is the most important sale factor after picture and latency. Since it's labeled as Android TV, by Christmas, app-wise, it should be fully loaded. When will you test the PlayStation app?
There's no mention of the amount of RAM or the CPU's speed in the spec list for the TV. It's more or less the same as a Chromecast, though, in that you can cast individual tabs to the TV, as well as apps and websites that are cast-ready.
The PlayStation app is not currently available for Sony's Android TVs, so we can't test it for the time being.
I like the KDL65W850C
because of the size and it fits my budget. But is the motion blur for watching sports (mostly football and basketball) going to be very noticeable to the untrained eye? If so I am thinking of sacrificing size to go with Samsungs UN60JU7100
. What do you think? I sit about 9 feet away from where the TV would be.
Also, does the Googlecast in the Android TV work both ways? i.e. I know the TV can mirror your mobile device, but I haven't read anywhere that your mobile device can mirror the TV (which seems to be the case with SmartView in the JU7100
It has a good deal of blur, so we expect that it might be an issue for some. The Samsung JU7100
is a good option, but if you still want a larger screen, you should go for the Samsung J6300
And no, you won't be able to cast your TV to your computer or mobile device.
One of your responses says you used the Samsung SSG-5150GB 3D glasses to test the TV's capabilities. Can you comment on how you paired the glasses with the TV? Thanks!
Sometimes it works instantly. But from time to time it takes a few tries to pair them, and there seems to be no way to know what is going on except keep pressing the button on the glasses.
Did the vertical banding affect your viewing experience? I purchased this same set and I am able to view the banding when watching sports.
It's noticeable, more so with hockey than it is for soccer or football. Ours doesn't look too bad - I found I had to look for the banding to notice it - but if you're more easily distracted by the banding, then it's still an issue.
If it's ruining your experience, you could try exchanging it and hopefully getting a better unit, or else go for a different model that is less prone to vertical banding.
Great info. Just got the 75W850C. Do you need a separate Chromecast? Or is that functionality completely represented in the Android TV?
Chromecast is essentially built-in, so you'll be all set with Android TV.
I was very high on this TV until reading your reviews, and am now having second thoughts. My price range is between $1,200 and $1,500. 4k is not a concern. My house watches a lot of cartoons (kids), TV/movies, with some sports and light gaming. The sitting range is 12-14'. We currently have a seven-year-old Samsung 50" plasma which has notable clouding and blur. It also produces a lot of heat.
Should I go for this 65", or another, or go for the smaller but higher-rated 55" 4k JU7100
Get the Samsung UN65J6300
. It's a better overall TV than the W850C
has much less blur), and fits into your budget. You don't get 4k the way you would with the JU7100
, but the larger screen is more important.
I have a Sony 75W850C. Love the TV's color. When watching golf events, there is a noticeable blurring of the ball as it moves - even on putts.
How can I minimize that without introducing the soap opera effect? Is there any negative effect if we change the MotionFlow setting?
You can use the 'Clearness' setting to flicker the backlight, which will make movement less blurry, but also darkens the screen.
If you use the regular MotionFlow settings to introduce the soap opera effect, you might also introduce artifacts to the image. These can do things like make the ball disappear while it is in movement.
Unfortunately, those are the only two options for clarifying movement.
Hello. Thank you for this informative website. I wish to purchase a 1080P 65" TV and am concerned with both picture quality and an attractive design. Is the Sony W850C
the best I can do for $1,500? Is the picture quality superior to the 2014 Vizio M Series
Yes, the W850C
is the best option for what you are looking for. Its picture quality is a bit better than the 2014 M-series
, but it's not a dramatic difference.
Are the ratings you came up with for the Motion Blur including the TV's Motionflow feature? I'm no expert, but I would assume the rating would be higher if the Motionflow was turned on. I'm looking to buy a new gaming TV and that low Motion Blur score is holding me back.
No, it's without. Many people don't enjoy that feature, and it's not good for all kinds of video (it's not great for sports, for example). It also doesn't change the length of the motion trail on moving objects, so it doesn't really reduce the amount of blur - it just clarifies movement a bit. MotionFlow also increases the input lag of the W850C
, so it's not an ideal fix.
Because of the amount of blur it has, the W850C isn't the best choice for a gaming TV. Instead, consider the Samsung J6200
, the Vizio E-series
, or the Samsung J6300
Could you please give me reasons why the xbr 55x850c is better than the xbr 55x810c? Which do you think is the better set and why?
Your site is awesome. Thx.
has more features. It has 3D and a wider color gamut that will mostly be used when 4k blur-ray and HDR will be available. The better set is really a matter of if you care about those features. If not, the x810c
is slightly better in contrast, motion blur and gray uniformity.
We are not taking any more questions for this product because we no longer have it in our lab.